You bump into a man on the subway wearing a trenchcoat. You apologize and he responds “Its alright. We’re only human. All of us. All of us here are human. Yep. Very human. I’m probably the most human here! You betcha.” and then the trenchcoat falls and the figure collapses and roughly 1000 salamanders scatter around the train
Rift did it: “Hello, fellow air-breather! It certainly is a nice day in the above-lands.”
Mary Sue is not any girl character who dares to be larger than life. That interpretation is fairly recent and incredibly annoying.
Mary Sue is that character who, when they show up, every other character and the narrative itself becomes little more than a reflection of his or her presence and activities. The writer wants us all to be as fixated on Mary Sue as they are, and the pressure that puts on the reader is the source of the animosity.
This. Also, Mary Sue is only called “Mary Sue” because that was the name of the character that started the trend. “Gary Stu” only exists because someone felt the word needed a male-coded version which is unnecessary. The word is merely a term defining a set of behaviors and writing style.
In addition, look at ANY Mary Sue Litmus test. They (usually) state outright, that a character can be too boring as well. A character that scores too low can be as bad as one who scores too high, because characters can be interesting without being the sole focus of the narrative’s attention.
Furthermore, a character can still rate as a Mary Sue and be a good character. A classic example is Morpheus, from Sandman. He raises a lot of the Mary Sue red flags, but because of how the author writes and handles the character, he avoids falling into the trap of the narrative revolving around him.
Any character is only as good as the person writing them. So it’s possible for a Mary Sue to be a good character! But it's far easier for them to be a bad one. And yes, there is a tendency for people to misuse the word when they dislike a character because it’s easy to slap a negative label on them that carries a lot of connotations to it then actually explain why you dislike a character.
But this idea that Mary Sues are strictly female characters who, as the OP puts it “dare to be larger than life” is bogus.
- A Trekkie’s Tale was a parody fic written in 1973 to satirize a pre-existing trend.
- It appears that, in some fandom circles, people were throwing the Mary Sue label at pretty much any female character way back in the eighties.
Most of this was before my time, but I have a theory about what might’ve happened.
- In the seventies, the term “Mary Sue” is coined to refer to a specific type of character and a specific type of story.
- In the eighties, some people continues to use the in the term in the classical sense, while others start using the term broadly to bash pretty much any female character.
- In the nineties, some segments of the fandom community are using Mary Sue as a gender neutral term, and often use male characters such as Wesley Crusher, James Tiberius Kirk, Luke Skywalker and Lion-O as well-known, canon examples.
- By the 20th century, there wasn’t much overlap between the fandom communities which use Mary Sue as a gender-neutral term for special snowflake type characters (such as LiveJournal) and the fandom communities where sexist douchebros used Mary Sue as a general term for any female character ever.
- A few years ago, websites such as TV Tropes and Tumblr attracted a lot of people from a lot of fandoms. So then you had people who sincerely believed that Mary Sue wasn’t sexist because they’ve mostly seen it used in a gender-neutral way arguing with people who sincerely believed that Mary Sue was sexist because they’ve mostly seen it being used in a sexist way. (I’ve seen it used in both contexts on the WoW story forums.)
I’m guessing that it’s probably going to take a while for fandoms to sort this thing out out.
Anonymous asked: what's wrong with the name gary stu? or do you just not like it?
it was picked for such a superficial reason, to rhyme with Mary Sue, and it sounds nothing like any name someone would choose for such a character. Gary? Stu??? these are potbellied, hairy factory workers, not wish fulfillment on legs. it’s twee and cutesy in the wrong way.
call him Sephiroth Johnson, call him Akita Inutama, call him Chance Storm, call him anything that sounds like someone really trying hard to make a cool character, just please don’t call him Gary Stu!
Sasuke Cloud is too cool for Gary Stu
SASUKE FUCKING CLOUD
exactly far enough to really hurt
Seriously guys. James Bond.
the worst sue of them all holy shit
What about “The Wesley”?
"FEELS" HAS BEEN A LEGIT TERM SINCE AT LEAST 1782:
— The Duchess, by Amanda Foreman.
Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire, really wrote a real letter to her mother complaining about the feels in 1782.
I love everything.
Apparently I now have English usage feels.
Wow, so people were already talking about feels two centuries before AOL? Cool!
I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.
“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”
“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”
“Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”
The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”
“Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”
“Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”
He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”
“Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”
I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.
“Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.
“Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.
“Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”
It didn’t seem like they did.
“Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”
Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.
I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.
“Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.
Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.
“Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.
I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”
He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.
“All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”
“Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.
“Because I was afraid.”
“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”
I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.
“Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”
He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me for arresting him.
Anonymous asked: ...i may be slow in noticing this, but are galley's 'i's all crosses because he's so detached from his sense of self, and he's literally crossing out himself from every sentence since his quirk renders him unable to say 'I'? that's really clever
yeah, and also because his voice cracks a lot. there’s also the way gemini’s symbol looks like two i’s together, but i didn’t think about it at the time.
hemoflipped crazy!nobility!galley avoids “u” instead because he’s terrified of other people >:D
my favorite fantroll of all time :3
I figured it was probably some sort of voice cracking / radio static type thing (that’s also how I interpret all the numbers in Mituna’s quirk), but I didn’t notice the parallels between Galley’s quirk and Enterprise’s quirk from One of Our Submarines until now.
omfg, well, we ARE talking about a series that only came into being to sell toys of giant killer robots from space that turn into firetrucks and VW beetles and tape recorders, it kinda comes with the territory
I mean, have you SEEN the Transformers wiki???
On the one hand, it’s an unbelievably extensive, useful and well-maintained database chronicling every single event in TF history, featuring contributions from actual TF writers
On the other…
Just take a look at the plot synopsis for the movie tie-in game, christ
The entire (RIDICULOUSLY HUGE) site is written and run by a bunch of smartass nerds, it’s utterly beautiful and very much representative of the fandom as a whole
I recently discovered TFwiki, and it is a work of art!
SCHOOL ENDS THIS FRIDAY
AS IN LEGITIMATELY ENDS FOREVER
AND YOU KNOW HOW OUR GRADING SYSTEM GOES FROM 1 (HELL YEAH!!!) TO 5 (HEAVENS NO!!!)
ANd YOU NEED A GRADE AVERAGE OF BELOW 1.5 TO GET A SCHOLARSHIP ($$$$$$$$$$$)
I FUCKING DID IT. I DID IT & I FEEL INCREDIBLY POWERFUL & BASICALLY UNSTOPPABLE
All that’s left to do is graduate and!!! I can do it!!! Like I’m not even lying to myself to feel better this time I can ACTUALLY DO IT it’s BASICALLY NOT EVEN A BIG DEAL ANYMORE
Usually before Important Events I’m always like yeah!!! FORCE THAT ENTHUSIASM!!! FAKE THAT CONFIDENCE UNTIL IT’S REAL and
I think I might have reached that point??? I think I’m actually there now like, I did it and I will continue to…. keep…. didding it…. and I honestly believe that and just WOOOOOOOOOO //BLOWS INTO NOISEMAKER FOR 5 MINUTES STRAIGHT
I’M SORRY THIS IS CHEESY I’M JUST. I’M STILL GIDDY. I’M VIBRATING OUT OF MY CHAIR BASICALLY. I MIGHT DELETE THIS LATER THERE’S NO REASON TO KEEP THIS POST
oh yeah also pssssssst
Official petition to change the name of Homestuck’s birthday to Shaypril Glurpeenth.
Yay, another thing to look forward to on 4/13!
Congratulations on the scholarship!
the Bechdel test, the Ellen Willis test, ALL THE TESTS: or, a handy guide to feminist critiques of narrative
(reference for when i am trying to explain these to people and they are looking at me like “huh”):
- the Bechdel test: does the story have a) more than one women, b) who talk to each other, c) about something other than a man.
- the Ellen Willis test: if you flip the genders, does the story still make sense?
- the Sexy Lamp test (courtesy of Kelly Sue DeConnick): can you replace your female character with a sexy lamp and still have the story work? if yes, YOU ARE A HACK.
- the Mako Mori test: there is a) at least one female character, b) who gets her own narrative arc, c) that is not about supporting a man’s story.
- the Tauriel test (which i made up in response to The Hobbit 2 [which passes] and Skyfall [which fails]): a) there is a woman, b) WHO IS GOOD AT HER JOB.
and in justification of my recent TV obsessions, i would like to note that Scandal, The Vampire Diaries, Buffy, and Nikita (ALL HAIL MAGGIE Q) pass all of these tests with flying colors.
UPDATE: i just discovered the Finkbeiner test and it is FANTASTIC.
A vital contribution to American Lettres.
A note: The Bechdel test gains a lot of weight when you compare it with the gender-flipped Bechdel test: “Are there two men who talk to each other about something other than a woman?” Without that, you might theorize that maybe movies are just romance-heavy or something, but no, I’ve not yet actually thought of a movie which has characters with speaking roles that doesn’t pass the gender-flipped Bechdel test. There might be some somewhere, but it’s rare.
I can think of a few examples off the top of my head, but yeah, it’s pretty frakkin’ rare. In contrast, the Bechdel Test failure rate is shockingly high in the mainstream media, even for Academy Award Best Picture nominees.